مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : Plz give me your comments about that!!
logical_fear
12-30-2006, 09:01 PM
I was sitting sadly last night, then I opened the Word, and I thought it might be useful if I wrote some things, so I did , can u give me ur opinions about what I wrote, is it bad, is it good, anything that can help, blame, encourage , or even criticizing me
There is no justice in life, so there is in the afterlife.
Write with simple words and vague meaning, are the simplest thing that a writer can do.
No one has the perfect knowledge, even knowledge itself
I can't imagine life without god, because I see in him the perfect justice
If there is no afterlife; life has no meaning then
Everyone struggles to live, make sure that life has affected him
Nothing is real, even your face in mirror
Mirrors are different even they have the same objective
An atheist lives his life always with fear even he keeps smiling
The one's words are the one's character
Fear made doubt as doubt did with fear
Some people are the next developed generation of animals
Always thank God, because everyone knows each other
In this life, we don't wear what we like, we wear what people like
Do never respect a whore! Because she didn't respect herself
History is not always true
I can't see a difference between night and day, they seem similar to me
It's not important what you wrote, the important why you are writing
Words are easy to be done, and hard to know its meaning
You keep defend on Islam, you would do the same if you were a Jew
same_old_story
12-30-2006, 11:20 PM
dear mr logical fear
first of all i really like your name as for me it is so good to be afraid in logic way
and about your written lines , they are so logic too yes i feel that too you RIGHT about the idea ( LIFE IS UNFARE ) some people may see it soooooo pessimist look to our life but i see it as SAD BUT TRUE
it is so goog friend keep on writting and i will always read
Dear friend thank you for sharing ur thoughts and writings with us
but i have some comments since this is what u asked for
There is no justice in life, so there is in the afterlife (the meaning is not clear) if you ask me why not clear because i didnt understand ur use of the "so" is it to give a result or to mean the same. and if either meaning u intended the sentence is still incorrect
Write with simple words and vague meaning, are the simplest thing that a writer can do
writing / to write because u need a subject here and not a verb
is and not are because u only mentioned one things (writing) and u dont need to put a comma
I can't imagine life without god, because I see in him the perfect justice
God and Him
If there is no afterlife; life has no meaning then
i think it would be better if u wrote: if there is no other(second) life then life has no meaning
Nothing is real, even your face in the mirror
mirror here is definite because it is clear that we r talking about the mirror u r looking at
Mirrors are different even though / if they have the same objective
An atheist lives his life always with fear even if he keeps smiling
an atheist always lives his life (adverbs of frequency like always, sometimes, usually, etc... come before action verbs) okk
The one's words are the one's character
one's words are one's character / a person's words are a person's character
because u mean anyone and no one specific so u cant use the
In this life, we don't wear what we like, we wear what people like
In this life, we don't wear what we like but what people like
Do never respect a whore! Because she didn't respect herself
Don't never respect a whore because she didn't respect herself
It's not important what you wrote, the important why you are writing
What is important is not what you write but why you wrote it
Words are easy to be done, and hard to know its meaning
written l spoken (because words are not done) their because u r talking about words
You keep defend on Islam, you would do the same if you were a Jew
defending Islam but you would
sorry i made it a big list of mistakes but we r here to help each other
anyway u r most welcome here my friend to share us with ur pots and topics and even most welcome to share us with ur comments about the other topics
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logical_fear
12-31-2006, 02:28 PM
There is no justice in life, so there is in the afterlife (the meaning is not clear) if you ask me why not clear because i didnt understand ur use of the "so" is it to give a result or to mean the same. and if either meaning u intended the sentence is still incorrect
Actually I meant a result, , can u explain to me why we can't using it as a result here.
I can't imagine life without god, because I see in him the perfect justice
God and Him
Why can't we use him !!!
Can u explain to me what I've mentioned , and thank u very much because I will never repeat the same mistakes
Thanks Mrs
ola 4 and thanks mr same old story for ur feelings
dear friend u can't use so in the first setence to mean as a result because the two sentences are not related in a cause and effect chain but they are related in being the opposites so u need to use but and not so
as for the second sentence u can't use him because we are talking about God and He is one and only one and every pronoun that refers to God should be written in capital letter. this is a rule and a form of respect to the Almighty God
dear friend u r most welcome to ask whatever u want and share us with whatever u like and we r all here to help each other
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hearty00
12-31-2006, 11:20 PM
There is no justice in life, so there is in the afterlife
May be the first attempt to appreciate the meaning of this line is to distinguish the speaker in it. if we relate to this line from a nonetheise point of view we will understand that this is logic applied to fake the existence of the afterlife or any supernatural world , hence we will not be shocked when an atheist said that as a consequence that there is not a justice in this life this life is meaningless as it is not yet proven the existence of another world and a hereafter this is what i understand from this line .I hope I didn't go beyond the true meaning of it
After all we will be waiting you to discern the meaning behind it .
It’s a good poem i like it indeed
be waiting your comments wasalam
logical_fear
01-02-2007, 11:47 AM
There is no justice in life, so there is in the afterlife
may be the first attempt to appreciate the meaning of this line is to distinguish the speaker in this line
if we see this line from a nonetheise point of view we will understand that this is logic they apply to fake the existence of afterlife , hence will not be shocked when a atheist said that as a consequence that there is not a justice in this life , there won't be a hereafter , let the existence of it .
this is what i understand from this line , i hope i didn't go beyond the true meaning of it after all we will be waiting you to desern the meaning behind it
it's a good poem i like it indeed
be waiting your comments wasalam
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first of all I would like to thank mrs ola4 for her correction,
for u mr hearty , I guess u misunderstood the meaning , we all know that there is no justice in life, Some people are living their lives in the lowliness, no prayer no faith, no principles in life, and u see them living in luxury, on the other side some poor people don't have the low rate of salary, always in the mosque ,he is struggling to make a modest livelihood, I think these two examples, of one his heart related to devil's followers, and the other whose heart attached with God, will be a reasonable cause, to make a conclusion, that there is a utopia, not in the philosophy theory, but in the Islamic view, this utopia is heaven, where there is the perfect justice no suppression , no social corruption, and even we are trying to make a fair land in this world, as the communism have tried to do in the soviet union, and they failed, u know why, cus Its impossible for a human being to build the perfect democracy,they failed cus it's based on atheism and non-beliefs , and injuctice, it's impossible, so we have to be specific in understanding the line, cus there is nothing means the perfect justice, God only can accomplish it!
hearty00
01-02-2007, 10:24 PM
salam alikom
thank you for this reply , you can call me hearty00 without any formal addressing ishallah .
[I guess u misunderstood the meaning , we all know that there is no justice in life, Some people are living their lives in the lowliness, no prayer no faith, no principles in life, and u see them living in luxury, on the other side some poor people don't have the low rate of salary, always in the mosque ,he is struggling to make a modest livelihood, I think these two examples, of one his heart related to devil's followers, and the other whose heart attached with God, will be a reasonable cause, to make a conclusion, that there is a utopia, not in the philosophy theory, but in the Islamic view[/QUOTE]
appreciate your comments and i likely feel what you want say , however, one should be aware of the background( whatever it is an islamic , or non islamic), so that, his/ her arguments start from a solide ground inshallah , that 's why i kinda misunderstood you earlier comments , i am saying this because if we stand from an islamic point of view and claim that there is not justice in this life , the interpretation only would not be fully approved froman islamic basis .if we get back again to your earlier statement and arguments why there isn't justice in this life , we see that you Reinforced your judgments with the ironic reality that is belessing for a category ( who do not deserve as you stated ) and visa versa.i am afraid because this not liable to be an Islamic point of view because if we contemplate in this verse in surate bakarra will get the clue . {And we will surely test you with some fear, hunger and shortages of property, people and produce. But give good tidings to the steadfast. Those who, when a calamity befalls them say: "We belong to Allah and to Him we return." Upon these are prayers from their Lord and mercy and these are the rightly-guided ones.} Al-Baqarah: 155-157 will notice that shortage of prosperity and the abundant either are test from the Almighty that's why we are not allowed to say that difference of sustaining as an injustice ; unless , Allah would be the cause and source of it astagfurallah
White Lily
01-11-2007, 12:08 PM
Salam Alikum
Good Job Dear logical fear
thank you for sharing us your thoughts
but for the last line , what exactly do you have in mind cause it did sonfused me
Keep it up all the time
hearty00
01-14-2007, 01:04 PM
alsalam alikom , i hope you are in the best health and Iman all
One thing I forget to state beforehand is when the discussion diverted to an Islamic discourse is out of your last comments that referred to cite the instances of Some people are living their lives in the lowliness, no prayer no faith, no principles in life, and u see them living in luxury, on the other side some poor people don't have the low rate of salary, always in the mosque, he is struggling to make a modest livelihood.
Which means that you differ between who has a faith in Allah and those who don’t (in your point of view) as if the fair rule is who is pious deserve be wealthy and visa verse. This is a candid point of view indeed and fairly logical because this is the reward we are awaiting for to take place a coming day and the justice to be fulfilled (this is make the existence of a hereafter is logical to prove a meaningful life) and you tried to convey this throughout poem.
However, the hold of justice is not only what make this existence necessary, for who deserve to be praised or punished is also a crucial point to urge, along with the criteria which determine one’s reward of any chosen procedure lead by ourselves.
In our quest seeking the meaning of this life a “divine test “what make a hereafter means something in return , because if you are pious and wealthy so what your praise will be like in heaven , the patient of a believer whereas he is afflicted by shortness of means is what differs between one who is relished heavenly. This two extreme example are afflicted with same misery. This is what I tried to explain in ly earlier comment sustained by this verse from the Quran: {And we will surely test you with some fear, hunger and shortages of property, people and produce. But give good tidings to the steadfast. Those who, when a calamity befalls them say: "We belong to Allah and to Him we return." Upon these are prayers from their Lord and mercy and these are the rightly-guided ones.}
Al-Baqarah: 155-157
Furthermore, let me discover with u the meaning of these lines:
Everyone struggles to live, make sure that life has affected him
Nothing is real, even your face in mirror
this is the case and effect of some may be the majority who care more about their life investing their means (struggle) -> what impact on somewhat their purity and produce in these : Mirrors are different even they have the same objective
here the discourse diverted to mention another point of view of life from an atheist by stating their scared behavior along with what consists the basis of their view of life that get back “Darwin” ‘s progressive theory about the creation of the human
An atheist lives his life always with fear even he keeps smiling
The one's words are the one's character
Fear made doubt as doubt did with fear
Some people are the next developed generation of animals
here you assumes rather a confused statement why we have to eulogize the lord Allah , because “In this life, we don't wear what we like, we wear what people like “ if I get fully your argument is the fact of the sins we do and all human share we still living together by the mercy of our lord Allah .
Always thank God, because everyone knows each other
In this life, we don't wear what we like, we wear what people like
Do never respect a whore! Because she didn't respect herself : here u illustrates your argument by a bitter reality (between you and me I feel like you are talking about a personal experience and I get this impression from the opening of your poem when u stated “I was sitting sadly last night, then I opened the Word ……”
This (and correct if I am wrong) would impact on your vision of this life somehow pessimistic the stance you undergo seems mingle with the loss of a poet when he is about to seek value in a valueless context (which leads to an intellectual confusion) , on the other hand you rise crucial point when you question the believe of some dare to defend Islam enthusiastically whereas in fact they hold the appearance and lack to know the deep meaning of their religion as in this respect there are just like a Jewish who defend his religion because he found himself risen in a Jewish context .
History is not always true
I can't see a difference between night and day, they seem similar to me
It's not important what you wrote, the important why you are writing
Words are easy to be done, and hard to know its meaning
You keep defend on Islam, you would do the same if you were a Jew .
oss792000
04-13-2007, 09:03 AM
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humanfaith
07-29-2007, 02:00 PM
Writeing in simple words and vague meaning, is the simplest thing that a writer can do
humanfaith
07-29-2007, 02:06 PM
Some people are the next developed generation of animals
This is beyond my expectation; I really liked the meaning laying in the above sentence. It is so powerful, in fact, I am amazed of it. Did you write this?
Good luck body,
nice world
09-03-2007, 07:54 PM
i like your poem because i felt every thing you said and you are right "life is not fair" but we have alot of great blessings like our health and the ability to share and live we must prove that we are alive instead of crying on our sadly life
the_black_knight
09-04-2007, 05:23 PM
thx my friend its realy a very nice poem